eatingchaos

You should be worried because YOU yes YOU, caused this sort of things to happen.

'You should be worried because YOU yes YOU, caused this sort of things to happen.'

I seriously feel sorry for u Hamba Allah. Islam itself is a beautiful religion , it advocates peace harmony and tolerance amongst the non muslims n muslims and here we have a supposed 'hamba allah' preaching the exact opposite.

Many of us non muslims felt sorry for the wrath incurred by our fellow humans in chechnya in bosnia in iraq and in jakarta in many other places where muslims were treated badly and suffered many injustice. I for one felt very sad n angered by the events.

yet I hear often enough, cries like yours. That whateva injustice that we as non muslims are facing are of our own becoming. Quite often it said coz of our deviated faith from the true path that you claim to be Islam. Fair enough that is your claim, dont blind us with ur claim , u r blinded enough with that earlier remark of yours.

Do you hear us non muslims saying whateva injustice that the muslims are facing are of your own becoming? I remmeber the tsunami incident. The events that occurred was of gods wrath upon deviant islams n the non believers(refering to us non muslims). Do you hear us saying all this of the yogjakarta incident or any of the incidents with regards to islamic nation.

Why cant you feel sad pity disgust when gross injustice is served upon us. Not often served but shoved. WHy cant you see us as equal human beings? Doesnt your religion advocate that? Why is it all about religion. C us as humans first then your conscious to your god too then would be clear.

Be a human first then u can b a hamba to anyone for all i care.

I feel sad for you, i feel sad for the non muslims who are fighting for your freedom for your rights too. Without having their religious belief meddled in the affairs of human rights.

C us as humans. And the truth shall set you free.

I think you are confusing things here. When the honest and sincere Muslim oppose any sort of attempt to destabilise their faith, you see it as a threat to yours. This has however got NOTHING to do with Islam and other religions. So why are you trying to cause trouble by interfering in what is solely a Muslim affair?

This blog has covered the issue quite well:

http://blog.menj.org/2006/06/14/vindicated-ulamas-want-kongsi-raya-celebrations-reviewed/

Fortunately, he is one of the few muslims around who recognise the danger of "Kongsi Raya" and actually voicing it out.

Passionate muslim

with great honour , if u did follow the blog posted, there are few comments there that give valid pointers as to why invalidating the kongsiraya seems stupid.

U c the indians n the chinese neva complained about it being a kongsi-raya , we r after all in a nation loving caring sharing in all that semangat muhibbah bullshit that even your respectul religion preaches

So why are u all doing this? What do you get out of this? If you want to counter the liberalisation of islam in a way that you guys hate , there are many things that you should be focusin on. Rather on stupid issues like this that only champion your stupidy and the folks who support it.

Instead of mockingly address the attempts of destablising your religion to kongsi raya , why dont you guys concentrate on your own folks who drown liquors n drugs in the very open eyes of the authority almost everywhere in malaysia. Go do that first. That my friend is what you should be addressing first.

The non muslims, including myself, had viewed the kongsi raya as a way where we malaysian not only preach harmony n religious tolerance amongst the so called friendly malaysian as portrayed in every pamphlet of 'visit malaysia-oh we so friendly loving nation with diverse culture n tolerance bullshit', but to b practising it too. We dont view it from a religious point of view , we view them as humans as friends.

Why cant u all? if you view this as threat or attempt to destablise your religion , then shame on you my friend. If you thought things like this could shake the very foundation of a very beautiful religion of islam , then shame on you for not having faith in your own religion.

Stop advocating nonsence , preach love preach peace.

"Why cant u all? if you view this as threat or attempt to destablise your religion"

It is not your place to tell us what is a threat to our religion and what is not. In any case, the Qur'an has already told us the following:

"You [referring to non-Muslims] do not worship what we worship. Neither do we worship what you worship. For us our religion and for you yours!"

And that quite sums up the matter.

religion or spirituality is a personal thing. it's a personal intepretation of how you want to relate to god. note the operating word here is 'personal'. therefore, if you object to the idea of kongsi raya, then don't attend any. it's as simple as that. let those who approve of it attend such merrymaking. don't shove your 'personal' idea down another person's throat... it's as repulsive as spitting in someone else's soup and expect the other person to drink it

"therefore, if you object to the idea of kongsi raya, then don't attend any"

Perhaps I am not qualified to speak about your beliefs, but in MY religion, i.e. Islam, Muslims are the brothers of one another, and we have a collective duty to guide each other. As our Prophet has said, if a Muslim gets hurt then the body (of the Ummah) will get hurt too. Hence it is our duty and task to guide our lost brothers (and sisters) and we cannot simply allow something blasphemous to continue if it affects every Muslim.

menj, i am seeking to understand.
how is kongsi raya blasphemous?